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Steven Deneir's avatar

"The problem is that we’re trying to have four entirely different conversations at the same time" is indeed what I face most.

I have no problem that all 4 levels are discussed in the same workshop, but it has to go through the different levels step by step, and - in my experience - first and foremost the problem space needs to be clarified way better.

Teams are so rushing into solutioning without even understanding the problem to solve, if it is even a problem to solve...

Jeroen Schuitema's avatar

Strong article.

As a facilitator, I would regularly ask:

"What level of abstraction are we discussing right now?"

"Are we talking about the problem, the solution, or the implementation?"

In my experience, many refinement discussions become difficult simply because people are unknowingly operating on different abstraction levels.

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